18 – “The Sealed Book (Pt. 2) – Salvation in Symbols & Signs”


That was rich…
rich, rich, rich… rich in faith and hope and
love, I got more than my share, that’s how I feel right
now, I just feel filled up… filled up… we looked
at Revelation chapter 5 and we didn’t get
all the way through but I think it will be
good for us to kind of summarize what we do have… as
we go in and finish it up because there’s so much there…
it is worth going over again and just saying,
“Okay, where did… what have we got,
what have we got… I don’t know… maybe we
should, maybe we should… Yvonne: Oh no… pop quiz… James: Boom…
fill in the details… see where our
Viewers are, you know, well, let’s pray at least first,
shall we? All right, Ivor… Ivor: “Heavenly
Father, we want to ask you that you bless us
as we open your Word, Father, we thank you for the bread of life
that you give to us, that you feed us
Lord, you ask us to pray, ‘give us our daily bread’ and so
we’re praying that today Lord, give us this
day our daily bread, fill us with your
love, with your grace and we just pray this
in Christ’s name, amen. ” All: “Amen… ” James: So, we got a
problem and we got a solution, we got a response to the
solution, what’s the problem? What’s the problem
in Revelation chapter 5? Jason: No man
could open the seal. James: Hmmm… hmmm… so what? What is that… what’s
the seal, what do you mean, “No man can open the
seal?” What does that mean? What is that… what is that…
what is it talking about? Jason: Foretelling
the future of humanity. James: Yes, our
future is sealed up, our fate is sealed up
and no one can alter it, no one in
heaven, no one in earth, no one under the earth,
we looked at Enoch, I mean, he had a close walk
with God, he’s in heaven, he was so close with God that God said, “Hey,
come on home with me” he cannot alter
our destiny with death, this scroll is the
history of Planet Earth, it’s written inside and outside, there’s nothing
missing and it’s sealed up and it’s in the
hands of the Lord because “the earth is the Lord’s
and the fullness thereof… ” but Satan is contending for it, he’s contending for us
and this planet, he wants it, and so there has to be an answer but John doesn’t see an
answer and how do we relate… what was the Old
Testament story related to that? Ivor: So we connected
it to the story of Ruth because we see it at a
term, “the Root of David… ” which we saw… points us back to that story of Ruth
in which Ruth and Naomi… don’t have a future
because their spouses have died and so, they have
no hope of a lineage, that’s the problem in that story and we saw that there
was a beautiful parallel between the story of Ruth and Boaz… who steps
up to be the redeemer, he’s the nearest of kin, that word
literally means redeemer, so the problem… just
going with the problem… is… they have no
future, they have no future, no lineage, no
offspring, that’s the problem which is the same
problem of humanity in Revelation
chapter 5, there’s no future, our future is sealed, doomed… death…
destruction, that’s the problem. James: And then we
went into the solution and the solution is… the Lamb,
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the Root of David, He has prevailed
where we have failed, He has done for us what
we couldn’t do for ourselves and it’s really powerful
because one of the elders… and we identified
the elders in Chapter 4 as one of those
who’s been redeemed, one of those who
is raised with Christ, one of the elders comes to John
and taps him on the shoulder and says, “Hey,
John, weep not… ” answer… solution… “behold
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, behold the Lion of
the Tribe of Judah… you’re not called to prevail,
you’re not called to overcome, you’re called to
connect with Christ, He’s the One who has prevailed
and as you connect with Him, you will overcome… as you connect with
Him, you will prevail, because He’s the
prevailer, He’s the overcomer. ” Ivor: We parallel that
again back to the story of Ruth and Boaz is the
answer to Ruth’s problem, right, Boaz comes… he
calls… remember in the story he brings the elders
together in the gate… where is Jesus gone? He’s gone into
the gates of heaven, He gathers the
elders and then… He’s making this
purchase not only of Ruth but of the land that was
part of the whole package, if you will, and so…
here you have Christ saying, I’m going to redeem the woman,
by-the-way… that woman… is a Gentile woman
with a Hebrew mother-in-law, this New Testament Church… but her mother-in-law…
Hebrew… Old Testament church. James: She was a Gentile… Ivor: Exactly,
and what does she say? “Your God will be
my God… ” right, this is exactly what the
people in these churches, “You’re people
will be my people… ” so, and it’s interesting because Ruth’s job is to
work in the field, to bring in the
sheaves, that’s what she’s doing and that’s what
attracts Boaz’s eye there, “Who is this woman who
is working in the field?” Right, and so,
in a greater sense, that “working in the field”
is bringing in the sheaves and that’s… that’s
what Christ wants to happen within His church,
He wants her to multiply multiply seed…
offspring… and so, it is because of
Christ’s redemption… Christ saying… “I’m going
to take this woman as my own, and if you take the woman,
you got to take the land too. ” “Yes, I’m going to
take the land too… ” He’s redeeming… and that’s why the
chapter uses that verse… “they’re excited
because He has redeemed us… ” our Boaz has stepped in… so it’s like
Christ saying, “Look… ” we were talking
about this earlier, that He set up that
story of Ruth and Boaz, because if that did not happen,
Jesse would not have come, David would not have come, and the Messiah would not
have come, technically speaking, so He’s… He’s saying, “Look, just as there
would be no hope for the Messiah if that
redemption did not happen, so I stand before you
now, as the Root of David, remember, remember,
so I’m showing you now that had I not stepped in,
mankind would have no future. ” James: And it’s
inclusive, God is inclusive… so, we don’t just
go to the New Testament and try to argue that…
“Yeah, after the… the… the crucifixion of Christ and
the gospel went to the Gentiles, and they were included… ” the Gentiles
were already included, they were always included, the story of Ruth as
well as others proves that, because it shows us the
lineage of Christ, Messiah, Redeemer Himself as
connected to the lineage that is bringing us back to the
Gentiles as well as the Jews. Ivor: Absolutely… James: So we have it
right there in the history, we have it right there in
the lineage of Christ Himself and it’s a beautiful
picture if you think about it. Ivor: It’s a love story… James: It’s a love story… and that’s what
I like about this because the Book of Revelation
is going from one love story to tell us the
ultimate love story… Ivor: The verse we talked about,
we used 1st Peter chapter 1, tells us that we’re
born again by the Word of God right, and we see
there the first seal, is a rider on a white horse which Revelation 19
identifies His name… the name of the rider on
that horse is “the Word of God,” and so James one… James: Yeah, it’s
twelve tribes scattered abroad, Ivor: The twelve
tribes scattered abroad… James: That’s who
James is writing to… Ivor: Right, and he says,
of… what does the verse say? James: “of his own will begat
he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of
firstfruits of his creatures. ” Ivor: So, we’re
“begotten… by the word” that’s what Christ was saying
in Revelation 5 demonstrating, “Listen, I’m going to
take this woman to myself and raise up the
name of the dead… ” James: Yes… Ivor: that’s what was
happening in the story of Boaz and it literally says, “Boaz came to her to raise
up the name of the dead… ” so Jesus says, “Okay,
we’re going to produce now… ” how does He
produce? By His Word… born again, born again, a great
multitude is being formed that are… the Bible
tells us “redeemed… ” these are they
which were redeemed, there’s that word
again, there’s a kin… redeemed from the earth,
so it’s a beautiful picture that Christ is showing
us in Revelation chapter 5 which, again, sets the
stage for our understanding of what the seven
seals are all about. James: Hmmm…
hmmm… Yvonne: Hmmm… James: And the 144,000…
of Revelation 7 are called the first fruits
in Revelation 14… they’re the first fruits. Ivor: Absolutely, so now you
begin to see why these words… they’re not
just thrown in there, why is it calling
them “the first fruits?” Why does it say
in Revelation 14, “These are they
which were redeemed… ” because Revelation 5 is
trying to prep our minds, “go back to the story of Ruth… see what’s happening there
so that you can understand… ” look, if there was no Ruth… we kind of talked about
this a little bit earlier… jumping a little
bit into the seals but the second seal is
a rider on a red horse which represents
death, without Christ, right? James: That’s our destiny…
Ivor: That’s our destiny… James: There’s no white horse… Ivor: There’s not white horse… James: There’s a red
horse, there’s a black horse… there’s a pale horse,
but there’s no white horse. Ivor: But because
of what Christ does… when the seals are opened
up, you see a white horse first. Yvonne: Hmmm… James: So,
history just got altered. Ivor: “I jumped in
between you and death” James: Yes, yes,
history has been altered. James: So now, no
man can alter history but Christ is able to
take and alter history, He has altered history, so
now when He opens the seals, we see a different history
and we see a different destiny, we see… we see…
what could have been and what will be for some… but we see something
different taking place. Ivor: He’s our
Prince on the white horse. James: Yes… we have a whole… He has re-written the history
of the human race in Himself, He’s the second Adam… He’s the second
head of the human race, and in Him… we
have a different destiny, in Him, every human
being has a different destiny. When we talk to… to Sister So-and-so…
and Brother So-and-so… because every
person at the gas station, every person at
the grocery store, every person that we
meet is a brother or a sister, we talk to them and say,
“You have a destiny in Christ, Christ has
re-written your history your history is
bleak according to… the scroll of this world… but your history is rich according to the
destiny of Jesus Christ. ” James: And that is
why we have response now, okay, now we’re
going to do response, that is why we see
the response that we see, the response that
we see first comes, let’s just look at it
again in Revelation chapter 5, Ivor: You just said that
Christ is the second Adam and that’s just such a
beautiful picture because He’s the second Adam
that marries the church and the first Adam was death, the first Adam… you know… we’re under that
sentence of death, almost like Boaz
coming in to replace that… that fallen husband…
Christ comes in and says, “Listen, I’m the second Adam… just as the first
Adam was put to death and the bride
came from his side, so I have stepped in
now, I die on the cross and from my open side…
comes forth… a new Eve… ” James: Wow! the
water and the blood… Ivor: The water and the blood,
so, it’s… it’s… it’s… again this is a love story from like so many
different angles He’s saying, “Look, I’m coming in because
your first husband led to death, first husband…
there was no hope… but in me… you have a future. James: Hmmm… hmmmm…
yeah, that wound in the side… at Calvary… that brought
forth water and the blood… the heart of Christ was broken and that broken heart
brings forth a new Bride, we are created out
of that broken heart, we’re created out of
that water and that blood, we’re cleansed
and we’re empowered, we’re forgiven…
it’s a beautiful picture… the story goes
on… so the response… the response… oh! in verse… chapter 5 in verse 7, now, I just want to
touch on verse 6 again because it talks
about how “he beheld and lo, in the midst of the
throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had
been slain… ” Calvary… “having seven
horns and seven eyes… ” and when we look at that
seven… we’re talking about all inclusive…
complete or perfect… horns represent power, eyes represent
God’s ability to see, He’s all
powerful, He’s omnipotent… and He’s all
seeing, He’s omniscient… He’s all powerful and all
seeing okay, so this power… all power… all-seeing God… is now going to send this
power out into all the earth, the Holy Spirit is the
third person of the Godhead that’s going to
come to represent God and fill His disciples
on earth… Planet Earth. Yvonne: What is “seven horns?” James: Seven horns represent
God’s power… God’s power… the eyes represent His
seeing, His omniscience… the horns represent
His power, horn is power, so seven is just
complete or perfect, God is complete
in perfect power… and He’s complete in
perfect omniscience… and He’s sending all that power
through His Holy Spirit to us… on Planet Earth, then
there’s this response, we are a little bit
overwhelmed but can you imagine the elders that are there and the living
creatures that are there, you got to put yourself
in their place in a sense because the living creatures, the representatives of
all the unfallen universe, the angels, the
living beings that are there are just… they’ve
been sitting through this for thousands of years,
they’re watching… watching… and finally, it’s
come… finally it’s come… victory has come…
and they are just… notice the response…
“And he came and took the book,” verse 7, “out of the right hand
of him that sat upon the throne” Jesus is not taking the book, the Lamb is not
taking the book from God, because God and the Lamb are one but He’s taking
possession of Planet Earth because God has been allowing
Satan’s accusation to continue and there it sits
in His hand untouched but there’s still
controversy over it… “No, no more controversy now,
we have been given to the Lamb we are the
possession of Jesus Christ. ” Yvonne: So when He took the book from the hand of Him
that sits on the throne, He… it wasn’t that
He was snatching the book, He was accepting his
assignment is that it? James: Yes, He was
accepting the reward… He was accepting the
fact that He has redeemed us, “It’s yours… here you go… ” it’s kind of like when you
go and you pay off your car, you pay off your
house and you go to the Bank and they give
you the title deed, are they doing you a favor? Are you ripping
it out of their hand? No, they’re
giving you what is yours. Yvonne: Right… I got it… James: So God is
giving Christ what is His… and that that is His… is us… it’s not just a piece
of paper, no, this is us, this is the whole
planet, “What? know ye not that you are
bought with a price. ” Ivor: Yes, that’s right. James: “You’ve been redeemed
by the blood of the Lamb, you are not your own,
yes, you’re not your own. ” Ivor: That’s
exactly what Boaz does, it actually says,
“He purchases Ruth… ” that’s what Christ did for us,
He purchased us with His blood, I want you to think about
that… that excitement… think about how
bleak it must have looked for Naomi and for Ruth and
then think about the joy that… it says the women named this… so there was
happiness in the Community, “oh… ” you know, women
like go… “Oh… oh… ” well, this is the whole
universe, sometimes like, I don’t know like…
women are different than men, and women love to know, I think, what’s going on in
other people’s lives and they really, really,
really get excited about it, the genuinely
get… “Oh… ” you know… and they get
excited… and I’ll be like… “Oh great… ” but they are… “Oh… Susie got
married… oh… ” and everyone’s
excited and I’m like, “Okay, yeah, Susie
got married, great… what about the Bible… ” and it’s almost like
the universe is watching the days of our lives…
and they’re genuinely like… “Huh… because of Christ…
look, humanity now has a future, and there is genuine excitement, you see what I’m
saying… in heaven? They’re not excited
for like… themselves… they’re excited because of
us, you know what I’m saying, that look… that lost
sheep out of the one hundred that now has a future
again that is not returned because of what
Christ has done for them. James: I love
that, that’s beautiful, so… so… ” he came and took
the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne. And when he had taken
the book,” here it comes… “the four beasts and
the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps,
and golden vials full of odors, which are the
prayers of the saints. And they sung… ” verse
9… “a new song, saying, Thou art worthy
to take the book, and to open the seals
thereof: for thou wast slain, and has redeemed
us to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;”
it’s not done there… “And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we
shall reign on the earth. ” Now, this is incredible,
when you look at this picture because we’re not only redeemed,
God doesn’t leave us there, sometimes, you know… oh
yeah, “I’ll accept Christ, I’m redeemed and now
I’ll just go on living… ” no, God has made
you kings and priests, now a king… has
dominion, he reigns… he has sovereignty,
you… on this earth… you are king…
you’re not a servant, you’re not a slave
to Satan or to sin… you are a king now,
you have sovereignty, you’re in charge
and you’re a priest, now, priests point to
the other side of that coin in the Old
Testament there were kings and there were
priests, but we’re both… we’re both… we are
kings, we have power, we have
sovereignty and we are priests, in that… we are called to
specifically connect with God on a spiritual level, intercede
for ourselves and for others, we’re called to this experience
that God wants us to have that is outlined in
all the Old Testament and even in the New
Testament as priesthood… you have priesthood…
and you have kingship… and this is what
God wants to do beyond simply forgiving
us and redeeming us, He wants us to step into
a new relationship with Him, it’s identified as
being kings and priests. Ivor: It’s interesting
that what God calls us here and what He desires…
this king… kingship… and priesthood… are spiritual,
He wants us to be kings and priests
through the Holy Spirit… it’s very interesting that
Satan is seeking to counterfeit this kings and
priests with his concept of Church and State…
which is outward control, you know… outward
force and it’s quite amazing… Satan seeks to counterfeit
everything… every good thing that God wants to do so He says,
“kings and priests… I’ve made you
kings and priests,” what is Satan going to do?
As we read through the book, he’s going to try to counterfeit
this… this combination and make it so… that
it is external… outward while nothing is happening on the inside. James: And he’s
going to make it singular. Ivor: Yes. James: And in fact, some
translations of the Bible will say, “I’ve made you
a kingdom of priests… ” now that is not
what God is talking… because in a
kingdom, there’s one king… there’s one
president, there’s one head and we all look to him, “No, I’ve made you kings
and I’ve made you priests… ” each one of us has
responsibility over ourselves, we don’t give
that responsibility to another human being, that responsibility
is ours before God, “I’ve made you
kings and priests… not a king… but
kings and priests… ” so it’s individual in
our relationship with Him and it’s powerful… really. Yvonne: It’s also
interesting to me… when… when people…
are going through hard times and everything… know
that God wants to elevate us, to a different
position not just you know… not… not feeling lower than but to elevate us to
a different position, we are kings which
means the head of something and priests which
is the spiritual head so… it’s… it’s
like God is saying, “I’m taking you
to a new level… ” James: And I like that because even though we
are under presidents and under government,
there is a sense in which each one of us has a sovereignty and I think this Country
of America stands for that at least in its Constitution that there’s this
individuality that we have that does not
come under the dominion of any government or any king… and there’s this
individuality we have that does not come
under the… the… the… control of any religious system or pastor or priest
or anyone like that… we ourselves are to
connect with God in prayer… in confession, in intercession, and we ourselves are
to be accountable to God in our understanding
our beliefs when it comes to the things that have to do
with our internal salvation with the Kingdom of God… we have to obey
the laws of the land… we have to obey the
kings and the presidents… that’s important… but in these
in these areas where we know it’s eternal and it’s
spiritual, we have one person that we give account
to and we are sovereign in our
relationship with that person and that’s really important here because the
blood of Jesus Christ has freed us to
be able to do that and that’s why we can’t
allow anything to step in between us and the
blood of Jesus Christ, there’s no other atonement…
no other sacrifice… nothing else… that can
step in between that place because it frees us to
be the kings and priests that we’re called to be. Yvonne: Right… right… James: Okay, so then it
goes on here and it says, and this is where it
gets even more intense, in the last few verses and I’m just going
to be honest with you, these last few
verses 11, 12, 13 and 14… when I first started
studying the Book of Revelation, I was just all about
prophecy, all about it, oh man! I had a
cassette tape… now… Jason, you may not know
what a cassette tape is… Jason: I was around… I
was around for the 8 track… James: It’s okay, all right…
and I would put that tape in and I would listen to the
half the Book of Revelation, flip it over… and I
just went through that till it quit
working, I mean… it… I loved the Book of Revelation
but I really got bored like, “Okay, why do
they have all these… ” I’m just going to say
these “praise interruptions” interruptions of
praise I call them, I mean, there are four verses
and it is… it’s four verses… but when we look
at the word count it’s probably half
of the chapter is praise and in chapter
4… same thing… you know, “Holy, holy, holy,”
and they’re all praising God and they’re all praising God,
and they’re all praising God… and I’m like…
“What about prophecy, what about the
beast, what about the Mark, what about… you
know… what is all… why are we
wasting… and I’m thinking, “Wow… ” now that I
look back I am realizing, because I missed the point,
I missed the purpose of praise, I missed the response
because like Ivor said, when you’re… when
you’re going to a wedding, when you’re
seeing people married… you’re excited and
you’re happy and you’re just… you’re loving it and you
want to just savor the moment because… and it’s just this
time of rejoicing and praise, and I wasn’t
going to the wedding… I was looking
for the prophecies… I was looking for the history but I wasn’t
going to the wedding and when we actually
step into the wedding, we realize the
bleakness of our situation… we recognize in chapter 4
God’s throne is set finally, it’s set… the
rainbow is there, justice and mercy
has been reconciled, the elders are there…
down payment in earnest, when we realize and we
see this big picture… and how it took place and… and the
impossibility for us and yet… what God has accomplished
for us… we get excited. Ivor: There’s a
serious danger here because… there’s a Bible
principle that says, “By beholding…
we become changed… ” and what we behold… in
the Book of Revelation… I mean, think about it,
if our focus is on the beast, the beast, the
beast, the beast, the beast, right… and “I just
want to see the beast… ” James: Yeah, we’re escaping… Ivor: I want to see the
beast, what begins to happen is you may not realize
it but your character is not balanced by
beholding the beast and so, we can become very… “You know
what… I mean, just… ” James:
beastly… Ivor: beastly… man that guy is a
beast… you know… but so… so the
Book of Revelation is not the
revelation of the beast it’s the
revelation of the Lamb… right, so the Lamb is the
focus and the beast is secondary it’s important… we
need to understand the beast but if we don’t
have the character, we might end up
becoming like the beast, right, knowing the truth but
our hearts are very beastly. James: This is
really important because in Revelation it says there’s this group of people who
follow the Lamb wherever He goes and the rest follow the
beast… Ivor: Hmmm… hmmm… James: and the way we are tells whether we’re following the Lamb
or we’re following the beast, are we following the
Lamb on a daily basis or are we following the beast because ultimately, we
follow one or the other because of the
decisions we’re making daily. The other things I
love about these verses is they give us a
little bit of a picture… a little bit of a
taste of eternity… Revelation’s seven churches
does that, you know, you have… “I want to make you
a pillar in the temple, I’m going to give you a
new name with a white stone” and… and… here we see… it says here… let’s
just read the verses again “And… and I… ” verse 11… “And I beheld, and I
heard the voice of many angels round about the throne
and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was
ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the
Lamb that was slain to receive power,
and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and
honour, and glory, and blessing. And every
creature… ” verse 13… “which is in heaven, and on
the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the
sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing… ” this is pointing all the
way to the very end of times see… it’s going to
give us a little taste, a little taste of
what it’s going to be like when everything is made new, that’s what Revelation does
in the churches, in the seals, it’s a little taste of… all the way
down to the very end. Yvonne: This also
gives a little taste of the fourth commandment too “the earth and under the earth
and such as are in the sea, and all that in
them is… ” you know… James: And verse 14…
“and worshipped him… ” Ivor: Remember the location…
right, the Table of Shewbread, where is the Table of Shewbread?
It’s in the sides of the north, what’s happening there?
That’s where, every Sabbath, the priests change the bread showing that the
Table of Shewbread reveals Christ as Creator,
that’s why it’s His throne, because He’s creating so…
this context of redemption… the Sabbath also is
a sign of redemption… it falls right in line
with everything we’re looking at in chapter five…
preparing us for the seals, it’s all about redemption…
redemption… redemption. Yvonne: Wow! James:
Beautiful… beautiful… We… we are ready to open the seals, yes, we are ready to open
the seals… now because see… understanding the
seals is predicated upon understanding chapters
four and five of Revelation, this is all about…
what is this all about… and when we get
this figured out, we start opening the
seals, “Oh! wow, yes, got it now now it makes sense
because we got this… we got… so…
this… this is beautiful… this is… it’s in our
pocket, God has blessed and now we’re
ready for the seals, now there may be some
people who have some questions that they want to
ask video questions, where are they going to
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submissions, of course. James: Yvonne, close us
out with prayer, would you? Yvonne: Yes,
sure… “Oh Father God… what a rich study in your Word, thank you for being
the divine designer, we know that this is not
by happenstance but by design so we praise you
and thank you so much and as we continue
to study your Word… we pray for continued guidance for your anointing and your
power and your presence Lord, thank you, in
Jesus’ name, amen. ” All: “Amen… ”

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5 thoughts on “18 – “The Sealed Book (Pt. 2) – Salvation in Symbols & Signs”

  1. Your ultra explanation of the "water and blood" from Christ's side…. as our "Love Story" has shook me to my core… OUR beloved Bridegroom…. as the Second Adam…. My Lord and Savior! Oh My Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. "No one could alter our destiny with death" – J.R. Wow. Potent. That deserved a moment to reflect…
    So thankful for the Lamb! Joining in the song by faith with the elders, "Thou art worthy…!"

  3. I also see the that no man could open the seals because without Jesus' death on the cross the future of mankind would not go forward. Therefore it took Jesus prevailing or overcoming sin and death to ensure the future of mankind.

  4. The Word Of GOD ls AMAZING when you understand it ! … No one but GOD could link all of this together to where it fits PERFECTLY ! … ALL PRAISE TO OUR CREATOR !!! …

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