Russell Brand Puts His Spin On The 12-Step Program


WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY TO “THE
LATE SHOW.” FOLKS, MY NEXT GUEST IS A
BRITISH ACTOR, A COMEDIAN, AND AUTHOR. PLEASE WELCOME RUSSELL BRAND. ♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE )>>Stephen: HI. NICE TO FINALLY MEET YOU. WE MET BACKSTAGE A SECOND AGO.>>EVEN SINCE THEN, OUR
RELATIONSHIP HAS EVOLVED. ( LAUGHTER ).>>Stephen: A LITTLE BIT, A
LITTLE BIT. YOU’RE ONE OF THESE ACTORS I
UNDERSTAND YOU’RE NOT HUGE ON TALK SHOWS. YOU DON’T LIKE SMALL TALK THAT
MUCH.>>I DO WORRY ABOUT SMALL TALK
BECAUSE IN THE BACK OF ME MIND, DURING SOME SMALL TALK, I MIGHT
SUDDENLY REALIZE THAT WE ARE MORTAL AND DEATH IS COMING–
CRUEL DEATH! THE ICY HAND, THE ICY HAND,
DEATH COMETH. SO SOMETIMES THAT DISTRACTS ME
FROM THE OLD SMALL TACK, STEPHEN.>>Stephen: DEATH LOOMS AT ALL
TIME.>>IT’S LOOMING RIGHT NOW.>>Stephen: WHY ARE WE HERE,
RUSSELL BRAND? WHY IS THERE SOMETHING INSTEAD
OF NOG? THE DO YOU THINK IT’S TO MOVE
TOWARDS ONENESS? COULD THERE BE SOME
CONSCIOUSNESS TRYING TO REALIZE ITSELF THROUGH MATERIAL? ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>>Stephen: WELL, I THOUGHT THE UNIVERSE WAS EXPANDING, AND
EVENTUALLY ENTROPY WILL BRING US TO SORT OF ABSOLUTE NEUTRAL ROOM
TEMPERATURE THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE, AND WE’LL SUFFER HEAT
DEATH, AND THERE WILL BE NOTHING, NOT EVEN ENERGY.>>BUT, STEPHEN! 70% OF THE UNIVERSE IS DARK
MATTER. IT’S INCONCEIVABLE. IT CAN’T BE HELD WITHIN
CONSCIOUSNESS. WE DOTE KNOW THE RULES OF THE
UNIVERSE YET, AS YOUR GREAT HERMAN MELVILLE SAYS, ALL HUMAN
SCIENCE BUT PASSING FABLES. EVERYTHING WE HOLD IS OUR CREDO. ALL THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE BUILT. WHERE DOES IT LEAVE US! I AM OZZIE MAN DIAS, KING OF
KINGS, ALONE IN THE DESERT, CIVILLATIONS RULE, STEPHEN. ROME FELL. THIS, TOO, MUST PASS! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? IT’S STILL LOOMING. IT’S LOOM-ING! ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>>Stephen: THAT’S TRUE. THAT’S VERY TRUE. IN THE MEANTIME… ( LAUGHTER )
YOU HAVE A BOOK. WE’RE GOING TO SELL SOME BOOKS
RIGHT NOW.>>DON’T YOU TRIVIALIZE THIS!>>Stephen: OH, I’M NOT. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR BOOK, A
SIGNATURE DOCUMENT TALKING ABOUT– IT’S CALLED “RECOVERY:
FREEDOM FROM OUR ADDICTIONS.” YOU CAN REALLY HAVE FREEDOM FROM
YOUR ADDICTION OR CAN YOU ONLY HOLD YOUR ADDICTION AT BAY?>>STEPHEN IT DEPENDS ON HOW ONE
DEFINES ADDICTION. YOU CAN HAVE FREEDOM FROM THE
MALEVOLENT MEN FESTATIONS OF ADDICTION. IF ADDICTION IS A DRIVE TO KNOW
TRUTH OR IN ANOTHER LEXICON, TO KNOW GOD, TO KNOW ONENESS, THAT
WE ARE UNABLE TO MEDICATE SUCCESSFULLY, BECAUSE OUR
CULTURE TELLS US THAT THERE IS NO MEANING, TELLS US WE ARE BUT
MATERIAL, TELLS US THAT WE ARE INDIVIDUALS TRAPPED IN FLESH,
ONLY HERE TO CONSUME. AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT
JUST CAN’T BEAR THAT, SO THEY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF HEROIN TO
UNWIND.>>Stephen: YES. THAT’S TRUE. ( LAUGHTER )
AS TOMOS BURTON SAID AS OURS, WE CLOTHE, WE WRAP IN THE BANDAGES
OF OTHER PEOPLE’S PERCEPTIONS OF US, OR IN OUR APPETITES AND
PLEASURES. AND WE SAY, “OH, THOSE BANDAGES,
THAT IS OURSELVES,” WOULD LOOKING UNDERNEATH OUR BANDAGE
THAT IS A HOLE IN OUR HEARTS THE SIZE OF GOD.>>I LIKE THAT. THAT’S VERY BEAUTIFUL.>>Stephen: I STOLE IT.>>HE SAID HAD YOU BEEN ABLE TO
ASK THAT THOMAS BURTON AND SAY IT IN THE FUTURE ON A TALK SHOW,
HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW SOCIETY
EVOLVED, SAY, YEAH, GO, MATE, THE SWADDLING.>>Stephen: HE WAS A MONK. HE DIDN’T HAVE POSSESSIONS.>>SOMETIMES I THINK IF I WAS
DRESSED IN RELIGIOUS GARB, PEOPLE WOULDN’T TROUBLE ME WITH
TRIVIA. IF I HAD A HOODED ROBE AND STUFF
LIKE THAT. PERHAPS THAT’S THE ANSWER– TO
ANNOUNCE YOURSELF PHYSICALLY AS RELIGIOUS. I’M TRYING TO LOOK LIKE JESUS,
BUT IT’S NOT WORKING.>>Stephen: THE ROBE WOULD
HELP. THE ROBE WOULD HELP A LOT.>>POSSIBLY WOULD HELP.>>Stephen: YOU HAVE OR HAD
ADDICTIONS. YOU’VE HAD SOME TROUBLE OR SOME
EXPERIENCE OR SOME ADVENTURES, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE
TWITH THE SELF-ABUSE OF INTOXICANTS. WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT GETTING
OFF THEM THAT WOULD HELP THE REST OF US?>>WHAT I LEARNED IS, IS THAT NO
MATTER WHAT THE PRESENTATION IS OF THE ADDICTION– IT COULD BE
FOOD, IT COULD BE SEX, IT COULD BE DRUGS, IT COULD BE MONEY–
AND I’VE TRIED ALL OF THEM. YEAH, I HAVE, REALLY
EXCESSIVELY. I REALLY GOT MYSELF A TERRIBLE
MISCHIEF. THE DRIVE BEHIND THIS IS THE
SAME DRIVE. IF YOU LEARN TO UNDERSTAND THIS
DRIVE, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH IT CORRECTLY,
THEN YOU CAN HAVE FREEDOM. SO I SUPPOSE WHAT I’M SAYING IS,
THE PEOPLE THAT, LIKE, ARE DRUG ADDICTS, THEY ARE MERELY THE
OUTLIARS. THEY ARE THE CREATURES THAT FLY
TO THE HIGH GROUND BEFORE THE TSUNAMI ARRIVES. BUT ALL OF US ARE ATTACHING,
SOMEHOW, AREN’T WE, TO TEMPORARY ILLUSIONS? THE SQUAD LING OF YOUR THOMAS
BURTON THERE. ALL OF US ARE CLINGING TO
THINGS, CLINGING TO THINGS, LIKE DROWNING MEN. AND I SUPPOSE THAT THE ANSWER IS
FOUND IN CONNECTION. SO I SUPPOSE THE QUICK ANSWER,
WHICH IS A BIT LATE, LET’S FACE IT NOW, IS CONNECTION.>>Stephen: YOU TALK ABOUT–
YOU WENT THROUGH THE 12 STEPS OF RECOVERY.>>YES.>>Stephen: YOU HAVE YOUR OWN
INTERPRETATIONS OF THEM.>>YES.>>Stephen: OKAY, THEY’RE NOT
EXACTLY THE 12 STEPS AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT KNOW THEM. IF I GAVE YOU A COUPLE OF 12
STEPS, COULD YOU INTERPRET THEM FOR ME?>>I WILL DO THAT FOR YOU
STEPHEN.>>Stephen: LET’S DO THE FIRST
THREE.>>OKAY.>>Stephen: YOU SAY– HERE’S
STEP NUMBER ONE IN THE 12 STEPS, AND YOU INTERPRET. NUMBER ONE, “WE ADMIT THAT WE
ARE POWERLESS OVER OUR ADDICTION AND THAT OUR LIVES HAVE BECOME
UNMANAGEABLE.”>>ARE YOU A (BLEEP)? ( LAUGHTER ).>>Stephen: TWO “WE COME TO
BELIEVE THAT A POWER GREATER THAN OURSELVES COULD RESTORE TO
US SANITY.”>>COULD YOU NOT BE (BLEEP)? ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ).>>Stephen: “WE MADE A
DECISION TO TURN OUR WILL AND OUR LIVES OVER TO THE CARE OF
GOD AS WE UNDERSTAND HIM.”>>ARE YOU ON YOUR OWN GONNA
UN(BLEEP) YOURSELF.>>Stephen: IF YOU CAN ASK,
WHAT– WHEN DID YOU ASK YOURSELF THOSE THREE QUESTIONS?>>I’M CONTINUALLY ASKING
MYSELF. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>>Stephen: OKAY, YOU GOT. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
YOU GOT INTO A TWITTER FEUD WITH OUR PRESIDENT.>>OH, YES. YOU’VE GOT A PRESIDENT, AND I
GOT INTO A FEUD WITH HIM VIA TWITTER, LIKE ALL DIGNIFIED
PEOPLE MUST. ( LAUGHTER )
>>Stephen: OKAY. IS THERE SUCH A THING– DO YOU
THINK THERE IS SUCH A THING AS A TWITTER ADDICTION?>>IF YOU’RE ASKING ME IF DONALD
TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, HAS ADDICTION,
CERTAINLY, THE MIDDLE SYLLABLE SEEMS PARTICULARLY PERTINENT. ( LAUGHTER ).>>Stephen: IT’S A SMALL
SYLLABLE.>>I’D SAY– IT’S BARELY THERE
AT ALL. ( APPLAUSE ).>>Stephen: THIS IS THE KIND
OF CONNECTION YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.>>IT’S A BRIEF INTERRUPTION IN
THE NOTHINGNESS, ISN’T IT, STEVE? THAT SYLLABLE, SO TINY, IS
BARELY TO BE THERE. SO I THINK, YEAH, LIKE, IS HE A
BEAT (BLEEP)? YES. COULD HE NOT BE (BLEEP)? THAT’S TRICKY. THREE, DOES HE NEED HELP TO
(BLEEP) HIMSELF? WELL, YEAH, BUT WHO’S GOING TO
DO IT AND WHAT (BLEEP) WOULD YOU USE? ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ) DID I DO WELL!>>Stephen: YOU DID SO WELL! YOU DID SO WELL. I’M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MUCH OF
THIS WILL MAKE IT TO AIR.>>OH, COME ON!>>Stephen: “RECOVERY: FREEDOM
FROM OUR ADDICTIONS” IS OUT NOW. RUSSELL BRAND, EVERYBODY.

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100 thoughts on “Russell Brand Puts His Spin On The 12-Step Program

  1. ive been in counseling for 10 years. im 24 right now, once puberty hit i became depressed, anxious, constant ideation of suicide and began using drugs at 12, permanent self harm shortly after, so fair to say i was emotionally and psychologically troubled. my drug use increased but remained relatively manageable until i was 18 and my life spiraled into misery as my drug use became severe and i began injecting heroin. finally i was ready for the anonymous fellowship i joined after dozens of detoxes and rehab and 5 years of attending meetings without being willing to participate and change. i got engaged in the 12 steps and in a matter of months i began to heal. the 12 steps did more for me in such a short time than 10 years of therapy combined. typing these words i have to laugh because before i started my recovery i though that the steps were cheesy and god was a myth. i encourage everyone and anyone in pain to do the 12 steps with a trusted experienced person.

  2. My belief is that when we create machines, robots, we shouldn't use them for our own good, as in some war and jobs, we should become one with them. How should we do that? To die, so we can let our "souls" enter them is ridiculous. I'm not sure HOW we are supposed to do that, but it's just something to think about.
    I personally don't think we will do that any time soon, especially when politics, war and destitution are as real as always.

  3. Mr Russell Brand is literally putting
    his own deep down experience of addiction into layman’s terms ,
    and I love that .

    Recovery from addiction
    is growing
    in character !

    Pardon the pun Russell .

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  5. when he said who’s going to do it and what bleep would u use what was the bleep that was cut out? idk what he said

  6. Stephen I love how you tried to do your research so you wouldn't look like a douche..you tried, but I think Russel is a little beyond our realm, he's on another level!!! Love you both!!!

  7. I would marry Russel Brand tomorrow, and if it didn't work out, at least it wouldn't be boring or mundane. He's a challenge, and I like that.

  8. that moment when you're distracted by youtube videos from GCSE revision then Russel Brand starts: "I am Ozymandias King of Kings" (this is one of my set poems)

  9. 03:28 – RUSSEL BRAND is shocked that a TV presenter is actually able to keep up and conversation and have insightful input

  10. Russel is very good and funny however he should have been more empathetic with laras product, she is trying to add value in her way

  11. To counter Stephen's point about entropy and the universe, it has now been determined that the universe is accelerating as it expands and with nothing as far as we know to hold it back, entropy becomes a mute point.

  12. I fucking love this guy! Funny how the hypocritical prude Americans sometimes have difficulty with his blunt honesty.

  13. If you think God is like what is in the Bible – creates people, says forgive, but puts some in hell, – if you believe in that ancient man made description of God – pity you – We exist because we are in the mind of God & God is love – so " God as you understand Him (him/her) in 12-step sounds scarey. My God/Goddess never puts anyone in hell, never created hell and loves and forgives all

  14. If he had an American accent, people would just roll their eyes.

    He sounds like a billion stoners I've met. Or a drunk bullshitter at a party, trying to impress. He's able to put words together that sound compelling if you don't listen to the substance of what he`s saying.

    Then add a little flair and stupid people eat it up.

  15. Hey Russell – AA is a cult – Colbert please have someone on who knows about the dangers of AA and its meetings

  16. me: oh, what a polite and educated intro he's done. Maybe it will be a calm, different, interview
    0:40: here we go

    love him

  17. Terrible actor, good comic, morally weak, exceptionally good with ladies. The disqualifier is his dishonesty, his career is manifesting his arrogance and charlatanry. He’s not a talented meditator in the sense that one would say they’re a talented musician, that’s obvious if you think about how exquisitely compassionate or attentive people (basically those with thousands of hours of practice) cary themselves on a subtle level, and he also has a terrible sense of prosody which you can see in times like when he says “the icy hand doth cometh” (hilariously bad). That would be fine if he didnt use his putridly saccharine manipulations of accent to make the audience feel like that’s a poetic phrase, when we all can really hear that its an awkward voicing of schemes of his greedy ego. This is all the worse now when most people can’t conjure any great art experience by memory. It’s best we don’t remember something empty like that, but remember this poem for example, by Simon Armitage

    The Crunch

    I put on weight at Christmas, then more during
    Lent. I tried the Nine Plums a Day Diet, the
    Pine Needle Diet, then the Eat Your Way to
    Health and Happiness with Pencil Shavings
    and Talc Plan, then ate nothing but road salt
    and hen feathers for more than a month, but just
    piled it on, pound after pound. Each morning,
    as naked as a fish and fully shaved, I gawped at
    the digital readout on the bathroom scales, much
    as a bereaved dog-lover might stare at a
    veterinary bill.
    My girlfriend was tactfully mute until
    Valentine’s night. After crawling out from
    under the ruins of sex she led me by the
    manacles through the wardrobe door, and there,
    amongst hangers and rails, guided my fingers
    towards tailored waistbands and handcrafted
    belts, towards beautifully finished collars and
    cuffs, towards the pinpoint darning of zips and
    buttons and studs. Tearful in the hard,
    indigenous light of the moon she whispered, “If
    you can’t do it for me, then at least for these
    attractive trousers, mister, or this handsome
    jacket, or this gorgeous shirt?

    Excerpt From
    Seeing Stars

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